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Classroom Management   |   Nov 11, 2013

Should teachers use collective punishment?

By Angela Watson

Founder and Writer

Should teachers use collective punishment?

By Angela Watson

Alright, that’s it. You guys can’t handle this activity, we’re shutting it down right now. Everybody, clean up. It’s over.”

Chances are, you’ve spoken words like that to your students at some point. You’ve given way too many warnings for the kids to get on task, quiet down, and/or get to work, and the classroom is still too chaotic. There are lots of students who aren’t following the rules, and rather than try to single out which 10 or 15 it is, you issue a consequence to the whole class. Everyone loses the privilege, and everyone suffers the consequences of the bad decisions made by part of the group.

Whole class or collective punishment is despised by students, who inevitably whine, “It’s not faaaaair!” Why should the students who were doing the right thing be punished because other students were not?

I used a lot of whole class consequences as a new teacher because they were the easiest way for me to handle misbehavior. When I was crunched for time and totally overwhelmed, it was so much simpler to just issue a mass consequence for everyone than to try to sort out who was actually in the wrong and address the root of the problem.

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Over the years, I started noticing just how devastating group punishments can be to the type of child who wants to please and is determined to follow the rules. I can think of at least one child in every class who cried when recess or a field trip or even just center time was taken away because his or her classmates were disruptive. At the time, I was so focused on stopping the misbehaviors that I just didn’t have the energy to give much thought to the kids who were doing the right thing. I felt bad for them, sure, but on a practical level, what exactly was I supposed to do when I had 10 minutes to ensure every student had mastered a skill and half the class seemed determined to thwart any type of learning?

It was the parent of a sweet little eight-year-old named Morgan who finally made me re-examine my practices. I adored both Morgan and her mother, and we had established a great rapport during the first few weeks of the school year. One morning in September, the mom called me and said Morgan couldn’t sleep the night before. I had taken away a privilege from the entire class (I wish I could remember now what it was) and Morgan was convinced I was mad at her. She was terrified to face me that day in school and couldn’t figure out what she had done wrong. Her mom told me, “I kept insisting to her that she must have broken a rule somehow, that she wouldn’t have lost the privilege if she’d done nothing wrong. I asked her over and over was she SURE she had done what you’d asked, and she was sobbing, saying she knew she had. She laid awake all night long trying to figure out what she’d done wrong.”

I was sitting at my desk during that phone call, totally stressed out and surrounded by stacks of papers that needed to be graded, lessons that needed to be written, and projects that needed to be organized. But everything fell away at that moment and my heart broke a little bit for Morgan. Clearly I hadn’t done a great job communicating to her and the rest of the class why the privilege was taken away. I hadn’t talked about how the whole class needs to work as a team, and when part of the group falters, sometimes they all have to suffer the consequences. Instead, I’d left Morgan–and undoubtedly a few others–wondering how they contributed to the problem and why they deserved to miss out on something fun.

I can’t say I completely stopped using whole class consequences after that day. But you better believe I thought twice before doing it again. I worked a lot harder at building a sense of classroom community and teaching students about the effects their choices had on their classmates. I also made sure I clearly spelled out consequences in advance (“If I have to stop the activity 3 times because it’s too noisy in here, we will all need to clean up early”) instead of blindsiding students by applying a consequence out of anger.

I never came up with an approach to collective punishment that I felt completely comfortable with. And so I thought I’d bring up the topic here. Do you use group punishments with your class? How do you apply consequences or take away privileges in a way that’s manageable for you but fair to all your students?

EDITED FEBRUARY 2020: This article is 7 years old and discussions are no longer being monitored. The comment section is closed.

Angela Watson

Founder and Writer

Angela created the first version of this site in 2003 to share practical ideas with fellow educators. Now with 11 years of teaching experience and more than a decade of experience as an instructional coach, Angela is the Editor-in-Chief of...
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  1. Hi,
    I am on the opposite end if this topic. I am a parent of a child with a perfectionist/pleaser personality. He is 7 and has encountered many collective punnishments while in elementry school. Its the policy. I don’t like it at all, however there’s no sign if it changing so I am asking for advice from you. I don’t see the need to take my child to the psychologist or couselor which was suggested once when I questioned the method (with ither parents of behaving children).
    I would love to know if there is something you, as a teacher, have noticed to work for a child that gets upset and maybe cries sometimes with collective punnishments. I always stand by what the teacher tells me, however again and again I am told my son is an example student. His young mind (that loves to follow rules to a T) cannot grasp how it is ok for the children behaving to receive punnishment because of others misbehavior. Any idea what I can say to him to bring it to his level of understanding? Are there any books you would suggest? I’d appreciate it so much

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  3. Hello Angela

    I like your article about group punishment and I could identify with the little girl that changed your kind about group punishments.I was diagnosed with Aspergers Syndrome a form of Autism.
    I remember many group punishments like putting our heads on the desks.Making us walk in a line more than once till we got standing in line right.
    Also I remember something called a “Yacker Tracker”.The Yacker Tracker was a traffic light that measured sound used in the cafeteria.It’s loud ear piercing alarm {to me it was because being sensitive to sound} went off if it got too loud.Also it would flash red.If it went off 3 times we had to miss recess and stand outside in a line in the hot or cold till the bell rang.
    I cried in line quietly too myself and began to dread that alarm going off because of the noise and punishment that followed.Also some would yell into the machines speakers making it go off on purpose and those counted.
    I was quiet by nature and it would be too loud to even think to speak if at all in a cafeteria.
    I wrote the company that made those in order to stand up for myself.I’m not trying to badmouth them by mentioning the products name, I’m just saying I remember it’s effect on me and for them to be more thoughtful of the psychology of these machines.
    I felt the same as that little girl.What did I do?
    I tried to follow the rules and even agreed with the teachers on liking it quiet because of my own over-stimulation, but I couldn’t do anything to stop others from talking.
    I think some teachers forget that children are people and will grow up and still have those memories of when they were group punished.
    I’d hope more teachers out there were more like you.
    I heard when asking a teacher once the reason for group punishment is number 4 to use peer pressure.
    It disgusted me that was the reason all along to basically ask children to do the teachers job for them.
    We as children wouldn’t know who started it anymore than the teachers and telling on someone was taboo in children culture.Being called a tattletale was the worst then.

  4. It’s suppose to say “change” your thinking about group punishements.I don’t know why I put “kind” in there.

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